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	<description>It takes something obnoxious to avert stupidity</description>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Grace by Interdependent blogbugle</title>
		<link>http://independentbloghorn.com/2010/07/saying-grace/comment-page-1/#comment-1377</link>
		<dc:creator>Interdependent blogbugle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 04:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bueller, Bueller, Bueller....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bueller, Bueller, Bueller&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Grace by Interdependent blogbugle</title>
		<link>http://independentbloghorn.com/2010/07/saying-grace/comment-page-1/#comment-1362</link>
		<dc:creator>Interdependent blogbugle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose that you juxtapose this definition against a supposedly liberal extreme relativist stance? I would caution against that. An interesting thing about &quot;liberalism&quot; (read: leftist political philosophies, not classical liberalism), as you put it, is that many of these strains of thought also point to transcendentally signified moral goods every bit as much as &quot;traditional morality&quot; does (assuming the more narrow version of this that I must guess you are operating from). However, for liberals, these moral goods tend to be things like &quot;inalienable human rights,&quot; as opposed to &quot;the word of God.&quot; I suppose I am saying that I would challenge that notion (which I gather from your past writing) that liberalism=ardent relativism. Rick Shweder (full disclosure: he is my dissertation committee chair) writes about this topic as &quot;liberal imperialism,&quot; analyzing movements such as the global anti-FGM campaign as basically a missionary movement for liberal moral goods, which these activists no doubt conceive of in transcendental terms. However, I doubt that these are the same goods you are pointing to when you gloss &quot;traditional morality.&quot; It is really important that we are careful not to pretend that politically liberal philosophies can&#039;t and aren&#039;t just as imperialistic as any other, which is where I see a major limitation to your (admittedly paraphrased) liberalism=extreme relativism equation. In which case, my question still stands: what do you mean by &quot;traditional morality?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose that you juxtapose this definition against a supposedly liberal extreme relativist stance? I would caution against that. An interesting thing about &#8220;liberalism&#8221; (read: leftist political philosophies, not classical liberalism), as you put it, is that many of these strains of thought also point to transcendentally signified moral goods every bit as much as &#8220;traditional morality&#8221; does (assuming the more narrow version of this that I must guess you are operating from). However, for liberals, these moral goods tend to be things like &#8220;inalienable human rights,&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;the word of God.&#8221; I suppose I am saying that I would challenge that notion (which I gather from your past writing) that liberalism=ardent relativism. Rick Shweder (full disclosure: he is my dissertation committee chair) writes about this topic as &#8220;liberal imperialism,&#8221; analyzing movements such as the global anti-FGM campaign as basically a missionary movement for liberal moral goods, which these activists no doubt conceive of in transcendental terms. However, I doubt that these are the same goods you are pointing to when you gloss &#8220;traditional morality.&#8221; It is really important that we are careful not to pretend that politically liberal philosophies can&#8217;t and aren&#8217;t just as imperialistic as any other, which is where I see a major limitation to your (admittedly paraphrased) liberalism=extreme relativism equation. In which case, my question still stands: what do you mean by &#8220;traditional morality?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Grace by admin</title>
		<link>http://independentbloghorn.com/2010/07/saying-grace/comment-page-1/#comment-1353</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 05:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morality that is built on the assumption that a transcendental signified exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morality that is built on the assumption that a transcendental signified exists.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Grace by Interdependent blogbugle</title>
		<link>http://independentbloghorn.com/2010/07/saying-grace/comment-page-1/#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>Interdependent blogbugle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 04:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious what you mean by &quot;traditional morality.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious what you mean by &#8220;traditional morality.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top Ten Industries besides Assault Weapons that Liberals should Ban by Monty Cassel</title>
		<link>http://independentbloghorn.com/2009/04/next-post/comment-page-1/#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty Cassel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that Hope or Change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that Hope or Change?<br />
<span class="cluv">Monty Cassel´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.thestrengthofamerica.com/2010/07/02/i-hope-this-offends-all-illegal-aliens/">I Hope This Offends all Illegal Aliens</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip 13687" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://independentbloghorn.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheartplus.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Grace by Harrison</title>
		<link>http://independentbloghorn.com/2010/07/saying-grace/comment-page-1/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 07:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As people stop doing what they should, government seems to feel the need to step in.  I am not for prayer in public schools but I&#039;m also against the absurd things being done to public school kids in the name of &quot;diversity&quot; too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As people stop doing what they should, government seems to feel the need to step in.  I am not for prayer in public schools but I&#8217;m also against the absurd things being done to public school kids in the name of &#8220;diversity&#8221; too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Grace by admin</title>
		<link>http://independentbloghorn.com/2010/07/saying-grace/comment-page-1/#comment-1325</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of looking at the specific issues of school lunch nutrition and banning public prayer, instead look at the broad social trends behind those issues.  What is the connection between overly ambitious governmental regulatory regimes and the decline of religious influence and traditional morality in a society?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of looking at the specific issues of school lunch nutrition and banning public prayer, instead look at the broad social trends behind those issues.  What is the connection between overly ambitious governmental regulatory regimes and the decline of religious influence and traditional morality in a society?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Grace by Harrison</title>
		<link>http://independentbloghorn.com/2010/07/saying-grace/comment-page-1/#comment-1324</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schools should offer food which is healthy.  I know you are involved in school lunches and when I was in school we had our fair share of tater tots and fish sticks but we did not have the option of eating burgers and fries every day.  There was one meal given out per day you either took it or didn&#039;t.

Not sure I get the connection between lunches and prayers though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schools should offer food which is healthy.  I know you are involved in school lunches and when I was in school we had our fair share of tater tots and fish sticks but we did not have the option of eating burgers and fries every day.  There was one meal given out per day you either took it or didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Not sure I get the connection between lunches and prayers though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Multicultural Immigration part 2: The Inevitable Right to National Self-Determination by US Immigration News and Resources &#171; Get US Immigration Help</title>
		<link>http://independentbloghorn.com/2010/05/multicultural-immigration-part-2-the-inevitable-right-to-national-self-determination/comment-page-1/#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>US Immigration News and Resources &#171; Get US Immigration Help</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 06:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Multicultural Immigration part 2: The Inevitable Right to National &#8230; &#8211; Ragarding immigration, it is in the interest of the United States to open its borders and allow massive amounts of immigration. The United States will pursue this interest ruthlessly, and on its own terms. I believe one thing is &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Multicultural Immigration part 2: The Inevitable Right to National &#8230; &#8211; Ragarding immigration, it is in the interest of the United States to open its borders and allow massive amounts of immigration. The United States will pursue this interest ruthlessly, and on its own terms. I believe one thing is &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Interview with Mike Lee part 2: Energy Solutions, New Media, State&#8217;s Rights, and Fighting the Growth of Government by LeeAnne</title>
		<link>http://independentbloghorn.com/2010/06/interview-with-mike-lee-part-2-energy-solutions-new-media-states-rights-and-fighting-the-growth-of-government/comment-page-1/#comment-1247</link>
		<dc:creator>LeeAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth about Mike Lee and Energy Solutions;

http://utahpatriot.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/the-truth-about-mike-lee-and-energy-solutions/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth about Mike Lee and Energy Solutions;</p>
<p><a href="http://utahpatriot.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/the-truth-about-mike-lee-and-energy-solutions/">http://utahpatriot.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/the-truth-about-mike-lee-and-energy-solutions/</a></p>
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